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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2011 7:57 pm 
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Getting a new computer soon (hopefully) and just wanted to ask for the overall opinions.
I'm not going for top of the line (obviously) but definitely want something more up to date (my motor-running squirrels are dieing off and I don't have the time to train more of them.)

I'm leaning towards just ordering a desktop from HP:
HP Pavilion HPE h8qe series
Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium [64-bit with Service Pack 1]
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-960 quad-core [3.2GHz, 1MB L2 + 8MB shared L3 cache]
9GB DDR3-1333MHz SDRAM [5 DIMMs]
1.5TB 7200 rpm SATA 3Gb/s hard drive from 750GB
1GB DDR5 NVIDIA GeForce 460 [2 DVI, mini-HDMI. VGA adapter]
460W Power supply
SuperMulti DVD Burner
Premium Wireless-N LAN card
Integrated sound
15-in-1 memory card reader, 2 USB, audio
Premium HP keyboard and optical mouse
HP 2311x 23" LED Monitor
$1,417.47 is the final price with a printer, free shipping, tax, and a $50 off coupon.

The processor is the cheapest one and the next one up is the six core 970 for an extra $350. I've never dealt with a quad or six core but the quad should be good enough or should I get the six core?
RAM should be enough?
The vid card is the highest Nvidia card they have available. Again, haven't dealt with any newer ones so..
No option for a sound card.

I haven't checked the price for building a similar computer using parts yet but opinions? Suggestions?

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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2011 10:35 pm 
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For 1500 hundred bucks...i'd think you could get more...
You going of of HPs site?

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Yeah, that's just from HP's site.
Like I said, I haven't had time to check out other options.
I've never bought and built my own computer before so a lot of research would have to be done for that route, :rofl1:

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I Just received a new computer today, which I ordered off HPs website.
Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium [64-bit with Service Pack 1]
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-960 quad-core [3.4GHz, 8MB L3 cache]
8GB DDR3-1333MHz SDRAM [5 DIMMs]
1.5TB 7200 rpm SATA 3Gb/s hard drive from 750GB
1.5GB DDR3 NVIDIA GeForce 440 [DVI, HDMI. VGA adapter]
Blueray DVD Burner
Premium Wireless-N LAN card
Integrated sound
15-in-1 memory card reader, 2 USB, audio
HP 2311x 23" LED Monitor

Set it up about 20 minutes ago. Works great so far.

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You can definitely build a much better PC with that kind money.
It is a good learning curve too, once you have built one, doing it again is easy.
Keep in mind you would probably get the same game performance out of that rig
with the GTX460 using an i3 Processor as you would with the i7 960 (in theory).
Of course the 1366 Chip-set is faster than the 1156 so ...
Once you get to a certain level with the new i series processors, the GPU becomes the limiting factor.
Basically what I am saying is that you could maybe save some dollars, go for a 1156
Motherboard with say ..... an i5 760 2.8ghz Quad Core (which is Highly Overclock-able)
and spend the excess on say a HD6970 .... then nothing would hold you back, gaming wise.

That's my advice anyway :wink:
* If you want me to throw together a good system (parts from newegg.com) for you (for you to build of course),
just let me know :wink: :D

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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2011 5:43 pm 
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Yeah, I threw together a quick 'computer' at newegg last night just to get the general idea. It sucked. :rofl1:
I've just never went thru the purchasing part of building a new computer, so that's why I posted this.

You can put together a set if you want but either way I'll have to google research stuff anyway just to make sure what is and isn't compatible as I'll end up being picky and try to change some stuff, lol.

Thanks for the replies!


Also, the world ends in 17 minutes so can we hurry this up? I want my new computer before the zombies start breaking in, :rofl1:

P.S. I prefer the $1500 mark but can easily go up to $1700...if I really wanted to I could push it to an even 2k but would rather not, :cheers:

P.P.S. How do you post link to a set of items?

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If a dumbass redneck like me can build a pc that actually works Good, out of a cpl old parts and a crap load of new parts for a little under 600 dollars. you should be able to build a screaming beast for $1500 from Newegg.com You have a bunch of PC smart guys around here that can help you out if you need it. Believe me, I only gave the other «FC»'s a few gray hairs when building this thing.

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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2011 9:39 pm 
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Better yet, call this retard for help

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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2011 9:59 pm 
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Let me break it down to just the desktop:
$1,417.47 - tax ($67.50) =
$1,349.97 - Printer ($39.99) and Monitor ($179.99) =
$1,129.99

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you could get what i got a dell inspiron 570 windows 7 500 or more gb good computer im not sure about the price


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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2011 12:21 am 
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I had a great system picked out for you .. went to post it and the forum auto
logged me out and I lost it GRRR took me ages.
I'll do it again for ya when I get some time :yeah:

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-sF-Sneaky wrote:
I had a great system picked out for you .. went to post it and the forum auto
logged me out and I lost it GRRR took me ages.
I'll do it again for ya when I get some time :yeah:

:crazy:

Yeah, use notepad or something for long, time consuming posts.
:yeah:

I think I'm narrowing down the minimums of what I want.
I want an i7 quad.
A 1TB HDD
8GB of RAM.
Win7 Home Premium.
NVIDIA GTX 500 series or Radeon 6800 series or higher.
Wireless adapter (have to have one.) Maybe the Cisco Valet?
Simple, but fast and reliable, DVD/CD drive. Might end up getting a Blu-ray drive but I haven't tasted HD yet so..
Multi-in-1 Card Reader. USB 3.0 port is nice, I guess.
MOBO, Case, and power supply...no Idea, lol.

Here's one I threw together: (is there an easy way to link a list?)

'Grand Total $1,528.64' (without monitor)
Question time: Does everything 'fit' together? lol
The MOBO lists the i7-960 as supported. The processor lists DDR3-800/1066, so if I get the 1600?

Also, should I order extra stuff? Fans, cords/connectors, etc?


P.S. By the way, I might get the monitor, printer, and anything else that I can from walmart as I should be able to get %10 off for being a walmart slave associate. So it depends on if the %10 off makes it lower than newegg's price (after shipping, no shipping fee with walmart's site-to-store option.)

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Those G-Skill RipJaws you chose are not on the QVL (Qualified Vendor List) for the ASUS P6X58D-E Motherboard.
http://support.asus.com/QVL.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=P6X58D-E&p=1&s=29&hashedid=gFBKfNyhppW9tDbB
Choose something off that list :wink:
Honestly though .... I don't know what your going to be using ya PC for but 12GB of ram is really over kill.
You would probably find if you had 6GB you would never use all of it at the one time
(go for 8GB if ya must and spend the leftover elsewhere) :idea: .
* Don't worry about the CPU only listing 800/1066, I have an i7 920 (one of the first i7's and I am running 1600mhz ram),
it is the MOBO that is important and that board takes up to DDR3 2000.

Other than that .... it all looks pretty sweet ... love the PSU Case combo great PSU and the case looks cool :yeah:
Case has 2 x 200mm fans (huge) and 1 x 120mm fan at the top back. Might want to get one more 120mm fan for
the side door, wouldn't hurt, plus it may help with extra cooling for the Graphics card (not overly necessary though).
If you do get the extra fan though you will then have 4 which can all be controlled by the cases built in fan controller. :idea:
And yep ... apart form the Ram it is all compatible :wink:

* OH ... I wouldn't be going with that GTX560 either, I'd be getting this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150530
only $15 more and ya can't beat the XFX lifetime warranty.
Also I have heard that the Nvidia 3d is a bit of a let down (if you plan on using it),
you'd probably be much better off with ATI's Eyefinity multi-monitor support which this card supports,
but that's me :wink:

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-sF-Sneaky wrote:
http://support.asus.com/QVL.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=P6X58D-E&p=1&s=29&hashedid=gFBKfNyhppW9tDbB
Choose something off that list :wink:
go for 8GB if ya must and spend the leftover elsewhere

Ok, that list doesn't have any 8GB sets though?
That MOBO was just a sample one, by the way. Are there any you would suggest over this one?

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Might want to get one more 120mm fan for
the side door, wouldn't hurt, plus it may help with extra cooling for the Graphics card (not overly necessary though).

I figured I should go ahead and get one. Any suggestion which one to get? One of these?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103061
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185059
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185060
(that last one has free shipping and if I get 2+ the price comes down but it's the loudest of the 3)

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I'd be getting this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150530
only $15 more and ya can't beat the XFX lifetime warranty.

That does look like a sweet card!


P.S. Thanks for all this help Sneaky!!

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No worries on the help, I love looking at PC components anyway :geek1: :D
OK, Motherboard, I have the:
Rampage III Formula
But if I had my choice over I would have got this and used the saved $'s elsewhere:
ASUS Sabertooth X58
Wombat got the Sabertooth and says it is great where I have had a few issues with the Rampage III Formula
(but that is because I have been playing with OC'ing much more).
The Sabertooth is a great board and it has a 5 Year warranty where most other boards only have 3 years.
Also it is 'military' grade, meaning they use tough (longer lasting) components in it's build.

If you go for the Sabertooth I would get this ram (only 6GB, really it will be more than enough and if you REALLY
need to, you can get another 6GB in the future):
CORSAIR DOMINATOR 6GB
Also this Ram is C8D (8-8-8-24) as opposed to the RipJaws that are CL9 (9-9-9-24)
So the Corsair ram has faster timings (not that you would notice, maybe?)

Sabertooth + Corsair Dominator 6GB = $300 saving you $67.98 on your previous MB/Ram combo.
You could put that saving into a Shit Hot Monitor? :idea:

With the fans .... get the Cooler Master fan, the Scythe fans are noisy (anything over 25 dBA is getting loud).
The Cooler Master Fan may not push as much air but it is plenty for what you need and
you will barely hear it.

With the i7 960 and the XFX 6950 ..... this will be an awesome rig :yeah:

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